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Upper Providence Township
Planning Commission
Regular Meeting
April 25, 2006 |
The Upper Providence Township
Planning Commission held their regularly scheduled monthly meeting on
April 25, 2006 at 7:00 PM in the Upper Providence Township Municipal
Building.
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Roll Call |
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Present were: James Martin, Vice-Chairman, Emilio DiMatteo, Thomas Finan,
Jennifer Hunter, Stephen Miller and William Montgomery. Joseph Solomon,
Chairman, arrived at 7:45 PM.
Also present: Kevin Matson with the Township Engineer’s office, Robert
Pappano, Township Solicitor, Edward Theurkauf, Township Planner and Anthony
Hamaday, Township Manager.
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Public Comment |
| Larry Sullivan, 410 Sycamore Mills Rd, was
concerned about the tree removal if the cul-de-sac was installed and asked
about the retaining wall if constructed with the original road plan.
David Roady, Sycamore Mills Rd, indicated that he preferred the alternate
plan but would like to see a wider driveway entrance on Sycamore Mills Road
as discussed by the planners. Elizabeth Selzer asked the planners to
deny the entire project. She indicated that the removal of the existing
house and trees would have an ecological impact.
Tim Rainer, 20 Calabrese Dr, informed the planners that he received a letter
from the realtor for the project requesting he grant an easement over
Calabrese Dr for the new lots. He also added that he was concerned about the
new driveways and parking on the street.
Lisa Polter, 60 Calabrese Dr told the planners that the residents do have an
easement on the street. She was informed this when she bought her property
and that she did not want to see the new lots on the street.
Tom Connolly, Calabrese Dr told the planners that he does not support
another house on the street.
Joanne Dozor, 600 Bobbin Mill Rd, indicated that she was opposed to
driveways and the removal of trees on the property. She wanted to know if
the driveway on State could be moved to save the 2 mature trees along the
street.
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Approval of Minutes |
| Mr. Miller made a motion, seconded by Mr.
Montgomery, to approve the March 26, 2006 meeting minutes.
Mr. DiMatteo Yes Mr. Miller Yes
Ms. Hunter Yes Mr. Martin Abstain
Mr. Finan Abstain Mr. Montgomery Yes
Motion passed 4-0
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Communications |
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Old Business |
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New Business |
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Net Out Ordinance Revision
Mr. Hamaday provided the planners with information prepared by the Township
planner regarding suggested revisions to the lot area definitions. Mr.
Theurkauf explained that he would propose for consideration to the planners
that the current 50% deduction for the floodplain be increased to 100% and
that the planners consider permitting no construction in the floodplain.
Mr. Pappano offered his concerns regarding prohibiting all construction in
the floodplain due the number of existing properties already in the
floodplain. The planners asked for information regarding the current number
of dwellings in the floodplain and asked Mr. Hamaday to obtain more
information in order for the planners to fully review prohibiting
construction in the floodplain.
431 Sycamore Mills Rd Subdivision – Sposato – Rayer Builders
Dennis O’Neill, P.E. of MacCombie Engineers provided the planners with an
overview of the proposed subdivision plan and reviewed the Township
Engineer’s review letter. The plan indicates that the existing 2.86-acre
parcel is proposed to be subdivided into 2 new residential lots with a
private cul-de-sac road. The existing dwelling and pool will be razed. The
plan shows that additional right of way along Sycamore Mills Road will be
dedicated to the Township providing for a 50’ right of way. The properties
will be serviced by public water and on-site septic systems. The plan calls
for a sidewalk waiver and the proposed new 50’ private road to the right of
the properties does not impact steep slopes to the extent a conditional use
will be required. The proposed location of the new road would also require
a waiver from the requirement that street intersections either be opposite
intersections on the other side of a cross street or 200’ from each other.
The proposed location would need a waiver. At the request of the Township
staff, the applicant prepared an alternate driveway plan, which shows the
cart way reduced to 10’ to service the rear lot. The Fire Marshal has
requested that the minimum paving be 16’ wide. The alternate driveway plan
will reduce the amount of impervious coverage and tree removal. The
required right of way will be 50’ but a waiver would be sought to reduce
the cart way width to 16’. The planners indicated that they would prefer
that the road/driveway entrance on Sycamore Mills Rd be widened to
accommodate greater ingress and egress.
The planners discussed the definition of a street and whether lot 2 would
be considered a flag lot per the definition in the Township Code. The
proposed street, regardless of the width would be private and maintained by
the 2 homeowners. The alternate plan eliminates the cul-de-sac and the need
for any disturbance of the steep slope areas adjacent to the neighboring
property.
Mr. Martin suggested that the planners do not have all the information
necessary to make a recommendation to Council. He added that the flag lot
and driveway/road way issues need to be addressed in order to determine
whether or not the property can be subdivided without zoning approval. The
planners asked that the applicant prepare a by-right base plan to see if
the property can actually be subdivided and then the planners can review
the proposed and alternate road plan. The planners asked the applicant to
return to the May meeting with revised plans.
Mr. Martin turned the Chair over to Mr. Solomon who continued the meeting.
300 State Road Subdivision – Maloni Street Investors
Gus Houtman, P. E. of Houtman Engineers provided an overview of the
proposed 3-lot subdivision to the planners. The plan proposes the
subdivision existing 30,000 sq. ft parcel into 3 new residential lots. The
proposed lots comply with the R-5 zoning regulations. Lots 1 and 2 will
front Calabrese Drive and Lot 3 will have frontage on State Rd. The lots
will be serviced by public water and sewer and storm water management will
be via underground seepage beds on each lot. Mr. Houtman reviewed the
Township Engineer’s review letter and indicated that the applicant intends
to comply with the comments. He reviewed the Township Planners review
comments with regard to providing access to all the lots on Calabrese Dr,
which would maintain the visual buffer along State Rd and use the
established intersection of Calabrese Dr as access to State Road. Mr. Finan
and Mr. Solomon suggested that it might be a good idea to provide safer
access to the lots and limit access to State Rd. Mr. Houtman indicated that
the applicant did not want to create shared driveways. The planners asked
Mr. Houtman to explore the idea of a common driveway for all the lots and
if one could actually be installed on the property to provide a potential
option, especially for lot 3’s access to State Road.
Mr. Houtman indicated that it might be possible to shift the house on lot 2
to save the trees. He also indicated that by moving the house on lot 3 to
the rear he could save the 26” pine on the lot. Mr. Houtman also addressed
that question about the easement and indicated that the title report showed
no such instrument. He concluded that he could also save the 2 trees at the
corner of lot 1 by relocating the seepage bed to under the proposed
driveway.
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The planners also discussed sidewalks along the 3 lots, which are
proposed. There was a question of whether the sidewalks would be
continuous along both sides of Calabrese Drive. It was determined that
there is a 15’ – 20’ gap between lot 2 and the next existing house. The
planners also where concerned that the hedges on lot 1 created a sight
obstruction. Mr. Houtman indicated that if they did, they would be trimmed
or removed as part of PennDot’s requirements for the new driveway for lot
3. The planners also discussed the need for compensatory trees for the
trees proposed to be removed. Mr. Houtman suggested that he and the
planner meet to resolve the issue since he would be revising the proposed
plan showing new home locations in order to save trees. The planners asked
Mr. Houtman and the applicant to return with revised plans at the May
meeting.
Planning Commission Plan Procedures
Mr. Hamaday discussed a proposed requirement that requires applicants who
need zoning relief for subdivisions and land developments to submit the
plan to the Planning Commission prior to going to the Zoning Hearing
Board. Mr. Solomon added that this might be of benefit since the Zoning
Hearing Board does not have the benefit of professionals. He added that
this might be a step in getting the Zoning Board to be on the same page
with the Planning Commission and that the proposed Comp Plan task force
will also help. The planners also discussed the plan submission procedures
in light of the rapid submission of plans prior to the last ordinance
change approved by Council. The planners will review the proposed
submission requirements and procedures at their May meeting.
Flood Plain Ordinance
Mr. Hamaday provided copies of flood plain ordinances from various
municipalities to the planners for their review of the existing flood
plain regulations with regard to construction in the flood plain.
Mr. Miller made a motion, seconded by Mr. Montgomery to adjourn the
meeting at 10:05 PM. The motion was unanimously approved.
Respectfully submitted,
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